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May 25, 2006
2005 CSR Awards Ballot (update3)
Thanks to all those who submitted their ballot for the 2005 Charles S. Roberts Awards. The official nominees for each category will be announced Wednesday evening, June 7, at the ConsimWorld Expo. To learn more about the origins of the CSR Awards and the founding father of the hobby, please read Charles S. Roberts: In His Own Words.
The balloting process is now completed.
Please review the list of games published in 2005 to base your nominee selections. You may then copy and paste the CSR ballot form into an email, complete it, and submit via email.
CSR Award Ballot: download here, complete, and email here.
Based on ballots received, the 2005 CSR Award Nominees will be announced on Wednesday, June 7 at ConsimWorld Expo 2006.
Eligibility Requirements. Eligible games are new, original releases and new editions. Straight reprints/remakes do not qualify. The CSR Advisory group will determine is the degree of changes, improvements, enhancements to the previous edition are sufficient enough to warrant eligibility.
NOTE: The von Clausewitz Award is a once in a lifetime award. To view past recipients, to help ensure you don't enter someone that is ineligible, please review the past recipient list.
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Comments
Many thanks to Alan Poulter for his in-depth list of board wargames published in 2005. Will there also be a comprehensive list of computer wargames published in 2005 made available?
Posted by: Annette Brooks at March 30, 2006 10:03 AM
Where are the rules for CSR eligibility?
The linked list of games made in 2005 was created by a member of a different awards committee (first paragraph). This list uses the terms "reprint" and "remake". Does such status have any impact on CSR eligibility? If so, for which categories?
Posted by: Craig Grando at March 30, 2006 10:54 AM
I'll have to defer to the Powers-That-Be such as Rodger MacGowan on this question. I'm sure he will respond here. My personal take is that reprints is definitely a "no" -- and if any remakes are to be considered, it should fundamentally be a new game design...similar to how the recent Drive on Stalingrad game from Decision Games shared little if any commonality with SPI's Drive on Stalingrad; short of the game title only. However, to be my own devil's advocate, this would disqualify a game like BITTER END from Compass Games, which just doesn't feel quite right given the work done to bring that game back to market...I can see folks wanting to vote for this item, if that's their preference.
So my short answer is: "I don't know and am not authorized to make such a decision" -- so let Rodger MacGowan as chairman clarify this for all of us. Thanks for raising this question.
Posted by: John Kranz at March 30, 2006 11:08 AM
Thanks, John. Without a definitive list of eligible games from the CSR committee or an explicit barring of all games listed as EITHER reprinted or "remade" on the IGA list, it seems very subjective to me. That's fair, as long as the CSR committee counts all votes rather than applying "hidden" tests.
Posted by: Craig Grando at March 30, 2006 11:18 AM
@Annette Brooks
Hi Annette - fancy seeing you asking that question in here :)
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2005 Releases
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Flashpoint Germany
http://www.matrixgames.com/games/flashpointgermany/main.asp
Patch 1.10 : http://www.matrixgames.com/news.asp?nid=298
Hitler's war
http://homepage.eircom.net/~monalisa/HitlersWar/
Civil War - Bull Run - Take Command 1861
http://www.madminutegames.com/thegame.htm
Demo : http://www.madminutegames.com/Downloads/CWBRDemo.exe
S.C.S. Dangerous Waters
http://www.battlefront.com/products/dw/features.html
http://www.sonalystscombatsims.com/
http://strategyfirst.com/en/games/DangerousWaters/
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2565
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2662
demo : http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=1740
Hearts of Iron II
www.heartsofiron2.com/
http://www.wargamer.com/articles/hoi2_cheat/
Gary Grigsby's World at War
http://www.worldatwaronline.com/main.asp
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/world_at_war/
Demo : ftp://ftp.matrixgames.com/pub/GaryGrigsbysWorldAtWar/GaryGrigsbysWorldAtWar-SetupDemo-v1049US.zip
Panzer Campaigns - France '40
http://www.hpssims.com
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/france_1940/
Silent Hunter 3
http://www.ubi.com/UK/Games/silenthunter3.htm
Campaign Peninsula
http://www.hpssims.com
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=1849
http://www.warfarehq.com/page_left_column.php?content=article_disp&p=315&page=1&cat=
Tin Soldiers : Julius Caesar
http://www.koiosworks.com
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=167
American civil War : Gettysburg
http://www.catdaddygames.com/gettysburg.html
http://www.catdaddy.com/game_updates/gettysburg_manual.zip
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/americancivilwargettysburg/index.html
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/acw_gettysburg/
Fall of Rome
http://www.fallofromegame.com/default.asp
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2025
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/fall_of_rome/
Cossacks 2
http://www.cossacks2.de/index.php?m=news&lang=en
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/cossacks_ii/
World War 2 in Europe : The First Blitzkrieg
http://www.hpssims.com/Pages/products/TWIE/Blitz/blitz.html
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/first_blitzkrieg/
Napoleonic Battles : Campaign Waterloo
http://www.hpssims.com/Pages/products/NapBat/waterloo/waterloo.html
http://hist-sdc.com/waterloo/
Imperial Glory
http://www.eidosinteractive.com/games/info.html?gmid=150
http://www.eidosinteractive.com/games/embed.html?gmid=150
http://forums.eidosgames.com/forumdisplay.php?&forumid=130
http://www.imperialglory.com/main.htm
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/imperial_glory/
demo : ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pc/games/gamershell/demo/ImperialGloryDemo.zip
Battles in Italy
http://www.ssg.com.au/
Falklands War : 1982
Demo : http://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/tfwdemo.zip
http://www.prosimco.com/tfw.htm
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=483
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/prosim/falklands_82/1.htm
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/blog/2005/03/16/air-assault-task-force-vapor-ware/
http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/lineofdeparture/falklandswar.asp
http://pc.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r23453.htm
Grandes Invasions - Great Invasions
http://www.clubic.com/actualite-18890-nobilis-annonce-les-grandes-invasions.html
http://www.great-invasions.com/
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=3034
NWS : Battleships Zenith
http://www.navalwarfare.org/~content/bz.html
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2171
NWS : Dreadnought Rising
http://www.navalwarfare.org/~content/dr.html
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2171
War of Enlightment
http://www.warofenlightenment.com/
http://www.wargamer.com/articles/warofenlightenment_interview/
Steel Panthers Main Battle Tank - Windows
http://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/WinSPMBT.zip
http://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/WinSPMBT_Ver2-0_Patch.zip
http://linetap.com/www/drg/SPCamo-4.htm
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/SPCamo/wSPMBT/6.htm
http://www.gamezilla.com/review.aspx?review=9202
Crown of Glory : Europe in the age of Napoleon
http://www.west-civ.com/
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=1830
http://www.matrixgames.com/game.asp?gid=306
http://www.matrixgames.com/news/news.asp?nid=254
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/crown_of_glory/
Patch : ftp://ftp.matrixgames.com/pub/crownofglory/CrownOfGlory-UpdateRelease-v110h.zip
Civil War Battles: Campaign Shiloh
http://www.hpssims.com/Pages/products/RifMusk/Shiloh/shiloh.html
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2198
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2212
Panzer Campaigns : Salerno '43
http://www.hpssims.com/Pages/products/PZC/PZC_salerno/salerno.html
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2198
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2219
Salvo
http://www.shrapnelgames.com
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=1866
http://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/Salvo_Demo_pc.exe
Operation Victory
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2091
http://www.trygames.com/game/aff=trygames/vid=5a4606083d7f413736c120238443e5f7
Demo : http://d.trymedia.com/dm/breakthrough/1h_pkg53_4/trygames/OperationVictorySetup.exe
T-72 : Balkans on Fire
http://www.battlefront.com
http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=46
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/t72/
Line of Muskets
http://towergames.com/LOMlist.jsp
Stalingrad
Demo at : http://www.blackbeangames.com/?act=games&game=stalingrad&ope=demo
http://www.stalingrad-game.com/en/
Squad Assault : Second Wave
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=1931
http://www.sa2ndwave.com/
demo : ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/games/PC/gamershell/demo/saswdemo.zip
Blitzkrieg 2
http://www.blitzkrieg2.de/
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2514
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2586
http://blitzkrieg2.wargamer.com/
Down in Flames
AAR report : http://www.wargamer.com/articles/down_in_flames_aar_part1/
Demo : http://www.battlefront.com/products/dif/demo.html
Final demo : http://www.gamershell.com/download_10933.shtml
http://www.battlefront.com/products/dif/
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/down-in-flames/627413p1.html
Samurai Blades : On Deadly Grounds
http://www.battlephase.com/
Diplomacy
http://www.diplomacy-pcgame.com/
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=295
http://www.wargamer.com/e3_2005/previews/diplomacy/
http://pc.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=8583
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2354
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2620
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2634
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/diplomacy_firstimpressions/
Demo is confirmed : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215415
demo : ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/games/PC/gamershell/demo/Diplomacy_Demo.zip
Panzer Campaigns : Moscow '41
http://www.hpssims.com/Pages/products/PZC/PZC_moscow41/moscow41.html
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2685
http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=424887
Anglo-German War '39 - '45
http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/agwshots.htm
http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/agwtutor.doc
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/m.asp?m=139597&mpage=1&key=
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2583
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/anglo_german_war/
The Star and the Crescent : The Arab/Israeli Wars 1956 to 2009
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/blog/2005/03/16/air-assault-task-force-vapor-ware/
http://www.prosimco.com/tsatc.htm
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=1743
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2531
demo at : http://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/tsatcdemo.zip
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/News/pr_01.htm
review : http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/articles.php?p=741&page=1&cat=52
Corsair Leader
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/m.asp?m=913855&mpage=1&key=
http://www.dvg.com/corsairleader.htm
Horse & Musket 2 : Prussia's Glory
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=1888
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2073
http://www.war-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=313017#post313017
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=2735
review : http://etoychest.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3836&Itemid=27
review : http://www.armchairgeneral.com/articles.php?p=2531&page=1&cat=59
War Plan Orange : Dreadnoughts in the Pacific 1922-1930
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=157
http://www.matrixgames.com/news.asp?nid=275
ftp://ftp.matrixgames.com/pub/warplanorange/WarPlanOrange-UpdateRelease-v120.zip
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/war_plan_orange/
Warship Combat : Dreadnoughts and Battleships
http://forums.navalwarfare.org/showthread.php?t=582
http://forums.navalwarfare.org/showthread.php?t=583
http://forums.navalwarfare.org/forumdisplay.php?f=10
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/m.asp?m=151016&mpage=2&key=
Demo : http://www.navalwarfare.info/files/WC/WCDB_Demo_Installer.exe
- that's it -
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Posted by: Eddy Sterckx at March 30, 2006 11:42 AM
Hi Eddy! Yes, I DO listen to words of wisdom :-) Thank you for posting your list.
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Posted by: Annette Brooks at March 30, 2006 01:13 PM
If a 2005 game has had significant changes made since it was published, which version of the game should we consider? The original as published, or a later version? If a later version, do we exclude versions published in 2006 or those that are still in post-publication playtesting?
Posted by: Kevin Moody at March 30, 2006 03:35 PM
On the positive side, I'd like to recommend the addition of an award category for best website.
On the negative side, looking at the 2005 game list, I am only seeing ten or twelve games that are eligible for the post wwii category. On the other hand, roughly 50 percent of the games on the list are pre wwii. I think there should be categories for pre-gunpowder, gunpowder, wwii, and other 20th/21st century wars. I think it is absurd for Crusader Rex and Triumph of Chaos to be in the running for the same category.
Posted by: Freeman Gilbert at April 2, 2006 02:26 AM
Received word from Rodger MacGowan that the CSR Awards focus solely on new releases. Reprints or remakes are not treated as new game releases (focus is on new, original work), so they are not counted in the balloting process.
Posted by: John Kranz at April 3, 2006 02:10 PM
Freeman makes a great point -- the "Pre-WWII" category is severely out-of-date in 2006. 20 years ago, when nearly everything was WWII, ACW or Cold War, it made sense, but not anymore.
If the awards committee is reading this, I'd even recommend splitting Pre-WWII into more than just two categories: Pre-Gunpowder, Pre-19th Century Gunpowder, 19th Century (including Napoleonics), and Pre-WWII 20th Century.
Today's hobby can support that. (A category could perhaps be cancelled for a year if it doesn't have 3 valid nominees).
Posted by: Aaron Silverman at April 3, 2006 04:13 PM
First, thanks Eddy for that list of computer games!
Second, in regard to Craig Grando's comment above (This list uses the terms "reprint" and "remake") I would to give some background.
There was in the past a lot of debate amongst the IGA Panel members on what the difference was between a reprint and a new edition and which games were which. The first question is pretty deep (putting my work hat on here as a lecturer in information science), the second equally tricky. To avoid getting lost in a definitional quagmire, we decided to add 'best guess' tags (the examples above) and then let the Panel choose anything they wanted, trusting in Panel member's instrinsic common sense.
My suggestion would be to re-open the definitional debate by, say, the use of a special folder here. It would have two objectives:
1) the creation of an industry-standard set of definitions to distinguish between different versions of a game
2) to apply those definitions to each year's worth of 'new' games
Note that this is not the only problem that affects the yearly list of board wargames. There is also an inclusivity issue (what is a wargame?) and a form issue (what is a board game?).
Posted by: Alan Poulter at April 5, 2006 02:53 AM
A couple of questions:
1. Is there a list of all the previous CSR Award winners?
2. If reprints and new editions cannot win a CSR Award how could SOS3 have won a few years ago?
Ken
Posted by: Ken Dingley at April 5, 2006 11:40 AM
Ken -- hmm, you are right. That doesn't fit with the eligibility rules. SOS3 would fall under the remake category...so it appears these games should be included. I'll fwd to Rodger MacGowan.
Posted by: John Kranz at April 5, 2006 11:49 AM
I have clarification from Rodger MacGowan on eligibility. Quote follows:
The confusion is between "reprints" and NEW "editions" of games. "Yes" to NEW editions -- this has always been our policy. "No" to straight REPRINTS -- reprints, without MAJOR changes, do not get a 2nd, 3rd chance to be nominated and/or win awards.
Finally, whether or not a New Edition title is subject to being nominated will be based on the decision of the CSR Advisory Group. What the advisory group will determine is the degree of changes, improvements, enhancements to the previous edition. It must be significant, otherwise it is a reprint per se.
Posted by: John Kranz at April 6, 2006 05:26 AM
Thanks for the clarification John.
It might be a good idea to make that ruling before people vote so they do not waste their vote. This way everyone knows ahead of time. Also, there are some items on the 2005 list that simply appear as "reprint" when in fact they are a "new edition".
Either way, I will accept the ruling as it relates to our game Bitter End, if in fact we are in the running.
Ken
Posted by: Ken Dingley at April 6, 2006 10:03 AM
Quick clarification. If you want to vote for only a single item in a given category, you need only list your selection once. You can't submit "extra" votes for a given title by voting for it more than once in a given category.
Posted by: John Kranz at April 6, 2006 12:11 PM
This is strange, because last year I had both Verdun & Fall of Tobruk in the running for a Charlie and yet both were also 'remakes' w/o having had "Major Work"....
I guess it really only makes a difference if there was enough contenders already. If there isn't, then a few 'illegal' choices can be added to fill out the category so it looks like there was real competetion and not just a giveaway.
Posted by: Todd Davis at April 10, 2006 11:13 AM
Todd,
Hmmmm, true, revised graphics are not sufficient to qualify a game as new edition. I hereby rescind both games' eligibility for last year.
;)
Posted by: Allan Rothberg at April 10, 2006 12:53 PM
I am interested in voting, but it is not clear if a partial ballot is acceptable.
I can only vote in a couple of categories and can't give a top 3 in them. I am not interested in ranking things I have not seen first hand.
Posted by: David Stanaway at May 17, 2006 12:34 PM
Dave,
You can submit a partial ballot. You can enter less than 3 entries in a category, and vote for however many categories you would like to.
Posted by: Allan Rothberg at May 17, 2006 12:55 PM
In going through the games published in 2005, it struck me how much the WWII games dominate the industry. It seems like only a handful of games were published in the Napoleonic period, and almost none in the ACW last year. Ancients had a decent amount of games, but other than that, the list is really skewed to WWII.
Posted by: Ken Feldman at May 18, 2006 09:36 AM
Ken,
Must just be that phase of the cycle that pushed WWI to the forefront. Well, that and WWI has generally been an under explored area for contemporary wargame design for a long time, and thus was/is still ripe for development.
Posted by: Allan Rothberg at May 18, 2006 03:36 PM
Wow! what a barrage of ballots today. The day isn't over, sp let's keep them coming!
Posted by: Allan Rothberg at May 26, 2006 08:01 PM
This is the first year that I can recall not having 3 games to list in the WWII category for the CSR Awards. Quite a shift from even ten years ago, when WWII and ACW were 1-2 in the "games published" ranks.
Posted by: John Kisner at May 27, 2006 12:08 PM
Can't think of three???
How about, for starters:
Fire in the Sky - brilliant redesign of Japanese design, the entire PacWar in a single night, VitP for the 21st Century, 1" counters!!
Silent War - really outstanding sim, high production qualities, top effort from a rookie firm, 'play a couple of turns and run off to work' flexibility.
Mighty Endeavour - hugely popular and playable Western Front, very nice graphics, stable rules system.
And that's not counting the magazine wargames!
Posted by: Peter Phelps at May 29, 2006 10:24 PM
Are the award winner's going to be announced publicly for those of us who were not in Tempe?
Posted by: Jason Matthews at June 14, 2006 04:25 PM
There has been a delay. I'm awaiting the final tabulations in order to announce the official CSR Award nominees. As soon as they come in, I will provide a news story!
Posted by: John Kranz at June 14, 2006 06:13 PM
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